Eugene Robinson is a columnist for The Washington Post, where he writes on politics and culture. He also serves as an MSNBC analyst.

The following interview was conducted by the Kirk Documentary Group’s Michael Wiser for FRONTLINE on Oct. 21, 2022. It has been edited for clarity and length.

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